Friday, January 24, 2014

ALL or only State Regulated?

"[My constituents are] willing to have that discussion about whether marriage needs to be regulated by the state at all," Turner said.
[emphasis mine]

So lawmakers are going to give us the freedom to enter marriage without the little trip to the court house to grovel before the state and pay our little fee to get married...but wait!!!  Michael Konopasek makes the big jump into the cesspool of fallacy by claiming that this would ban ALL [caps his] marriage in the state of Oklahoma.

Kiesel says prohibiting all marriage is new territory. In fact, the ACLU was unable to find an example of where a state has ever tried to ban all marriage.

Maybe Kiesel and Konopasek are ignorant of history and thus unable to find an example of unregulated marriage. If so they shouldn't feel too bad about it since all education in this country is somehow controlled by the state and these things aren't widely disseminated:


[From The Wikipedia]
For most of Western history, marriage was a private contract between two families. Until the 16th-century, Christian churches accepted the validity of a marriage on the basis of a couple’s declarations. If two people claimed that they had exchanged marital vows—even without witnesses—the Catholic Church accepted that they were validly married.

Some states in the US hold that public cohabitation can be sufficient evidence of a valid marriage. Marriage license application records from government authorities are widely available starting from the mid-19th century. Some are available dating from the 17th century in colonial America. Marriage licenses have been required since 1639 in Massachusetts, with their use gradually expanding to other jurisdictions.


So Oklahomans, led by their buddies in the media are clamoring to be held to standards more abject than those imposed by the Medieval Catholic Church. And to make matters worse, while scrolling through the comments on the News 9 site and Facebook, most of the pro-liberty comments have been scrubbed.....

( Lawmakers Consider Preventing ALL Marriage In Oklahoma )

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